
Utah Utes (@Utah_Football)
Kyle Whittingham (21th year) (167-86)
Record: 0 - 0 | Prediction: 7.8 - 4.2 (#37) | SOS: (#43)
Power (#35) | Off (#68) | Def (#17) | Roster | Portals | Croots
Record: 0 - 0 | Prediction: 7.8 - 4.2 (#37) | SOS: (#43)

Utah's 2025 Schedule | |||||||
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Date | Matchup | Spread | Total | Result | O/U | Cover | |
Fri 8/29 | Utah at UCLA | -2.5 | 49.5 | U | N | ||
Fri 9/5 | Utah vs Cal Poly | -33 | |||||
Fri 9/12 | Utah at Wyoming | -20.5 | |||||
Fri 9/19 | Utah vs Texas Tech | -1 | |||||
Fri 9/26 | Utah at West Virginia | -7.5 | |||||
BYE WEEK | |||||||
Fri 10/10 | Utah vs Arizona State | +1.5 | |||||
Fri 10/17 | Utah at BYU | +2.5 | |||||
Fri 10/24 | Utah vs Colorado | -7 | |||||
Fri 10/31 | Utah vs Cincinnati | -7 | |||||
BYE WEEK | |||||||
Fri 11/14 | Utah at Baylor | +2.5 | |||||
Fri 11/21 | Utah vs Kansas State | +2.5 | |||||
Fri 11/28 | Utah at Kansas | -3 |
Record Prediction: 7.8 - 4.2 #37
Schedule Rating: #43
Future 2026 Schedule
Utah's 2024 Schedule | |||||||
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Date | Matchup | Spread | Total | Result | O/U | Cover | |
Thu 8/29 | Utah vs Southern Utah | -37.5 | 55.5 | W 49 - 0 | U | Y | |
Sat 9/7 | Utah vs Baylor | -14.5 | 52.5 | W 23 - 12 | U | N | |
Sat 9/14 | Utah at Utah State | -20.5 | 43.5 | W 38 - 21 | O | N | |
Sat 9/21 | Utah at Oklahoma State | -1.0 | 53.5 | W 22 - 19 | U | Y | |
Sat 9/28 | Utah vs Arizona | -7.5 | 47.0 | L 10 - 23 | U | N | |
BYE WEEK | |||||||
Fri 10/11 | Utah at Arizona State | -6.0 | 46.5 | L 19 - 27 | U | N | |
Sat 10/19 | Utah vs TCU | -3.0 | 52.0 | L 7 - 13 | U | N | |
Sat 10/26 | Utah at Houston | -4.5 | 36.0 | L 14 - 17 | U | N | |
BYE WEEK | |||||||
Sat 11/9 | Utah vs BYU | +3.5 | 40.5 | L 21 - 22 | O | Y | |
Sat 11/16 | Utah at Colorado | +13.5 | 43.5 | L 24 - 49 | O | N | |
Sat 11/23 | Utah vs Iowa State | +6.5 | 42.5 | L 28 - 31 | O | Y | |
Fri 11/29 | Utah at UCF | +9.5 | 45.5 | W 28 - 14 | U | Y |
2024 Record: 5 - 7 (B12: 2 - 7)
Spread Record 5 - 7 - 0 | O/U 4 - 8
2025 class: 208 points #40
2024 class: 185 points #60
2023 class: 233 points #21
2022 class: 210 points #34
2021 class: 203 points #33
Average Class Ranking: #38
Average Recruiting Points: 208
2024 class: 185 points #60
2023 class: 233 points #21
2022 class: 210 points #34
2021 class: 203 points #33
Average Class Ranking: #38
Average Recruiting Points: 208
Class Averages
Big 12 Class: 201 #49
Power 4 Class: 225 #49
FBS Class: 179 #69
Big 12 Class: 201 #49
Power 4 Class: 225 #49
FBS Class: 179 #69
2020 class: 212 points #29
2019 class: 197 points #42
2018 class: 210 points #33
2017 class: 206 points #33
2016 class: 201 points #37
Average Class Ranking: #35
Average Recruiting Points: 205
2019 class: 197 points #42
2018 class: 210 points #33
2017 class: 206 points #33
2016 class: 201 points #37
Average Class Ranking: #35
Average Recruiting Points: 205
 
Offensive Coordinator Jason Beck
(Tr) - new transfer in 2025
Player Name | COMP | ATT | PCT | YDS | TD | INT | YPA |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Devon Dampier (Tr) | 226 | 390 | 58% | 2768 | 12 | 12 | 7.1 |
Isaac Wilson | 127 | 225 | 56% | 1510 | 10 | 11 | 6.7 |
Player Name | CAR | YDS | TD | YPC | LONG |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Devon Dampier (Tr) | 156 | 1152 | 19 | 7.4 | 85 |
Wayshawn Parker (Tr) | 137 | 735 | 4 | 5.4 | 75 |
NaQuari Rogers (Tr) | 74 | 382 | 5 | 5.2 | 29 |
Bryce Duke (Tr) | 46 | 285 | 0 | 6.2 | 48 |
Player Name | REC | YDS | TD | YPC | LONG |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Otto Tia (Tr) | 44 | 434 | 7 | 9.9 | 51 |
Larry Simmons (Tr) | 27 | 421 | 1 | 15.6 | 75 |
Justin Stevenson (Tr) | 17 | 204 | 3 | 12.0 | 63 |
Tobias Merriweather (Tr) | 11 | 125 | 1 | 11.4 | 37 |
Defensive Coordinator Morgan Scalley
Top Def | Tack | TFL | SACKS | PRESS | PD |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Lander Barton | 72 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 4 |
Tao Johnson | 70 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 4 |
Smith Snowden | 48 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 8 |
Johnathan Hall | 38 | 9 | 1 | 0 | 3 |
Sacks | Tack | TFL | SACKS | PRESS | PD |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Logan Fano | 35 | 7 | 3 | 4 | 1 |
Lander Barton | 72 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 4 |
Dallas Vakalahi | 16 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Lance Holtzclaw (Tr) | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
Pass D | Tack | TFL | SACKS | PRESS | PD |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Smith Snowden | 48 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 8 |
Lander Barton | 72 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 4 |
Tao Johnson | 70 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 4 |
Returning Production
Overall Returning Production: 61% #41
Offense Returning Production: 72% #14
Defense Returning Production: 51% #79
Overall Returning Production: 61% #41
Offense Returning Production: 72% #14
Defense Returning Production: 51% #79
Transfer Portal
2025 Portal Class #42
17 Commits, 86.3 Avg Rating
26% of 2025 Roster from Portal, 25% TY
2025 Portal Class #42
17 Commits, 86.3 Avg Rating
26% of 2025 Roster from Portal, 25% TY
Team Talent
2025 Talent Rating: 722.00 #68
Offense Talent #61 | Defense Talent #64
2024 #59 | 2023 #35 | 2022 #33 | 2021 #31
2025 Talent Rating: 722.00 #68
Offense Talent #61 | Defense Talent #64
2024 #59 | 2023 #35 | 2022 #33 | 2021 #31
2025 - 2022 Records
2025 Record: 0 - 0
2025 Conf Record: 0 - 0
Spread: 0 - 0 - 0 | Totals: 0 - 0
2024 Record: 5 - 7
2024 Conf Record: 2 - 7
Spread: 5 - 7 - 0 | Totals: 4 - 8
2023 Record: 8 - 5
2023 Conf Record: 5 - 4
Spread: 6 - 6 - 1 | Totals: 5 - 8
2022 Record: 10 - 4
2022 Conf Record: 8 - 2
Spread: 8 - 6 - 0 | Totals: 8 - 6
Four Year Record: 23 - 16
Four Year Record vs. Spread: 19 - 19 - 1
Four Year Conference Record: 15 - 13
2025 Record: 0 - 0
2025 Conf Record: 0 - 0
Spread: 0 - 0 - 0 | Totals: 0 - 0
2024 Record: 5 - 7
2024 Conf Record: 2 - 7
Spread: 5 - 7 - 0 | Totals: 4 - 8
2023 Record: 8 - 5
2023 Conf Record: 5 - 4
Spread: 6 - 6 - 1 | Totals: 5 - 8
2022 Record: 10 - 4
2022 Conf Record: 8 - 2
Spread: 8 - 6 - 0 | Totals: 8 - 6
Four Year Record: 23 - 16
Four Year Record vs. Spread: 19 - 19 - 1
Four Year Conference Record: 15 - 13
2021 - 2018 Records
2021 Record: 10 - 4
2021 Conf Record: 9 - 1
Spread: 7 - 7 - 0 | Totals: 9 - 5
2020 Record: 3 - 2
2020 Conf Record: 3 - 2
Spread: 3 - 2 - 0 | Totals: 3 - 2
2019 Record: 11 - 3
2019 Conf Record: 8 - 2
Spread: 9 - 5 - 0 | Totals: 4 - 10
2018 Record: 9 - 5
2018 Conf Record: 6 - 4
Spread: 7 - 7 - 0 | Totals: 8 - 6
Eight Year Record: 56 - 30
Eight Year Record vs. Spread: 45 - 40 - 1
Eight Year Conference Record: 49 - 22
2021 Record: 10 - 4
2021 Conf Record: 9 - 1
Spread: 7 - 7 - 0 | Totals: 9 - 5
2020 Record: 3 - 2
2020 Conf Record: 3 - 2
Spread: 3 - 2 - 0 | Totals: 3 - 2
2019 Record: 11 - 3
2019 Conf Record: 8 - 2
Spread: 9 - 5 - 0 | Totals: 4 - 10
2018 Record: 9 - 5
2018 Conf Record: 6 - 4
Spread: 7 - 7 - 0 | Totals: 8 - 6
Eight Year Record: 56 - 30
Eight Year Record vs. Spread: 45 - 40 - 1
Eight Year Conference Record: 49 - 22
Utah Recent Bowl History | |||||
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Date | Bowl | Matchup | Spread | Total | Result |
2023 | Vegas Bowl | Utah vs Northwestern | -6.5 | 44.5 | L 7 - 14 |
2022 | Rose Bowl | Utah vs Penn State | +1.5 | 55.5 | L 21 - 35 |
2021 | Rose Bowl | Utah vs Ohio State | +4.5 | 64.5 | L 45 - 48 |
2019 | N/A | Utah vs Texas | -7.5 | 57.0 | L 10 - 38 |
2018 | N/A | Utah vs Northwestern | -7.0 | 43.0 | L 20 - 31 |
2017 | Dallas Bowl | Utah vs West Virginia | -6.5 | 56.0 | W 30 - 14 |
2016 | Farms Bowl | Utah vs Indiana | -6.5 | 54.0 | W 26 - 24 |
2015 | Vegas Bowl | Utah vs BYU | -3.0 | W 35 - 28 |
Power Ranking Stats (2024)
More Stats (2024)
Overall Stats (2024)
Run Game Stats (2024)
Pass Game Stats (2024)
Teams | Offense PPA | Offense Success | Offense Pts Per Opp | Avg Start FP | 3rd Down % | 4th Down % | Defense PPA | Defense Success | Defense Pts Per Opp | Opponent FP |
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2024 | .08 (120) | 37% (125) | 3.4 (111) | 30.7 (32) | 33% | 45% | .05 (7) | 35% (4) | 3.13 (15) | 27.9 (38) |
Teams | Offense PPA | Offense Success | Offense Pts Per Opp | Avg Start FP | 3rd Down % | 4th Down % | Defense PPA | Defense Success | Defense Pts Per Opp | Opponent FP |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2023 | .11 (112) | 40% (89) | 3.29 (107) | 29.6 (59) | 41% | 41% | .14 (38) | 36% (16) | 3.48 (45) | 28.3 (54) |
More Stats (2024)
Teams | Games | Possession Time | 1st Downs PG | 3rd Down % | 4th Down % | Penalties PG | Penalty Yds PG | Off TO PG | Def TO PG | TFL PG | Sacks PG | D/ST TDs |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2024 | 12 | 32:06 (37) | 16.6 (124) | 33% | 45% | 5.4 (36) | 46.3 (35) | 1.8 (110) | 1.5 | 6.4 (36) | 1.9 (65) | 4 |
Teams | Games | Possession Time | 1st Downs PG | 3rd Down % | 4th Down % | Penalties PG | Penalty Yds PG | Off TO PG | Def TO PG | TFL PG | Sacks PG | D/ST TDs |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2023 | 13 | 34:07 (4) | 18.8 (77) | 41% | 41% | 4.9 (29) | 41.2 (23) | 1 (19) | 1.2 | 5.3 (61) | 2.5 (26) | 2 |
Overall Stats (2024)
Teams | Games | PPG | Home | Road | Success Rate | Pts PerOpp | TO | 1stD PG | TotalYds PG | RushYds PG | PassYdsPG | RYPA | Run Rate | Pass Rate | Run Success | Pass Success | Havoc Rate | Total PPA |
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2024 Offense | 12 | 23.6 | 23 | 24.2 | 36.7% (125) | 3.4 (111) | 1.8 | 17 | 330 | 130 | 199 | 3.9 | 49% (76) | 51% (58) | 38% (116) | 35% (119) | 19% (120) | .08 (120) |
2024 Defense | 12 | 20.7 | 16.8 | 24.5 | 35.3% (4) | 3.13 (15) | 1.5 | - | - | - | - | - | 48% (41) | 51% (92) | 37% (10) | 34% (6) | 20% (12) | .05 (7) |
Teams | Games | PPG | Home | Road | Success Rate | Pts PerOpp | TO | 1stD PG | TotalYds PG | RushYds PG | PassYdsPG | RYPA | Run Rate | Pass Rate | Run Success | Pass Success | Havoc Rate | Total PPA |
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2023 Offense | 13 | 23.2 | 26.7 | 21.4 | 40.4% (89) | 3.29 (107) | 1 | 19 | 348 | 183 | 166 | 4.2 | 60% (11) | 39% (123) | 42% (83) | 39% (92) | 14% (28) | .11 (112) |
2023 Defense | 13 | 19.3 | 13.4 | 28.6 | 36.4% (16) | 3.48 (45) | 1.2 | - | - | - | - | - | 39% (1) | 60% (133) | 38% (30) | 35% (9) | 17% (53) | .14 (38) |
Run Game Stats (2024)
Teams | Games | Run Play Rate | Run Play Success | Rush Att PG | Rush Yds PG | Rush Yds Per Att | Rushing TDs | Run Pred Pts Added | OL Yds Per Att | 3rd/4th & Short | Front 7 Havoc | Run Play Explosivness |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2024 Offense | 12 | 49% (76) | 38% (116) | 33.6 | 130.4 | 3.9 | 7 (131) | (123) | 2.73 (114) | 66% (113) | 12% (117) | 0.88 (111) |
2024 Defense | 12 | 48% (41) | 37% (10) | - | - | - | - | .04 (25) | 2.53 (9) | 64% (22) | 12% (34) | 1.07 (105) |
Teams | Games | Run Play Rate | Run Play Success | Rush Att PG | Rush Yds PG | Rush Yds Per Att | Rushing TDs | Run Pred Pts Added | OL Yds Per Att | 3rd/4th & Short | Front 7 Havoc | Run Play Explosivness |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2023 Offense | 13 | 60% (11) | 42% (83) | 43.2 | 182.5 | 4.2 | 19 (69) | .13 (82) | 3.09 (72) | 69% (100) | 8% (37) | 1 (63) |
2023 Defense | 13 | 39% (1) | 38% (30) | - | - | - | - | .09 (37) | 2.93 (39) | 70% (49) | 11% (41) | 1.01 (77) |
Pass Game Stats (2024)
Teams | Games | PassPlay Rate | PassPlay Success | Comp PG | Att PG | Yds PG | Yds PA | Yds PC | TDs | Ints | PassPlays PPA | PassPlays Expl | PassDowns Rate | PassDowns Succ Rate | PassDowns PPA | DB Havoc | PassDowns Expl |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2024 Offense | 12 | 51% (58) | 35% (119) | 16.6 | 29.8 | 199.4 | 6.7 | 12 | 20 (58) | 17 (127) | .16 (106) | 1.7 (23) | 36% (127) | 24% (127) | .2 (110) | 7% (107) | 2.2 (22) |
2024 Defense | 12 | 51% (92) | 34% (6) | - | - | - | - | - | - | 12 (39) | .09 (15) | 1.6 (74) | 37% (4) | 25% (8) | .09 (1) | 8% (4) | 2 (59) |
Teams | Games | PassPlay Rate | PassPlay Success | Comp PG | Att PG | Yds PG | Yds PA | Yds PC | TDs | Ints | PassPlays PPA | PassPlays Expl | PassDowns Rate | PassDowns Succ Rate | PassDowns PPA | DB Havoc | PassDowns Expl |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2023 Offense | 13 | 39% (123) | 39% (92) | 14.5 | 25.2 | 165.8 | 6.6 | 11.4 | 15 (96) | 11 (68) | .13 (117) | 1.5 (114) | 30% (37) | 28% (92) | .17 (113) | 5% (38) | 1.8 (121) |
2023 Defense | 13 | 60% (133) | 35% (9) | - | - | - | - | - | - | 8 (100) | .18 (20) | 1.7 (99) | 38% (4) | 23% (4) | .2 (18) | 6% (77) | 2.1 (90) |
Team Notes (5/12) QB Dampier forced 54 missed tackles LY ❌
(4/15) QB Dampier (NM) has full control, big weapon ❌
(4/15) OL returns all 5 starters, look much improved ❌
(4/4) OT Spencer Fano the #1 OT via PFF ❌
(3/20) RBs took 3 portals, Parker (WSU) good ❌
(3/20) WR rebuild. 3 portal adds. TE a ? early ❌
(3/20) Def replaces a lot, but always v good. ❌
(3/20) Def not many portals. Belief in depth ❌
(4/15) QB Dampier (NM) has full control, big weapon ❌
(4/15) OL returns all 5 starters, look much improved ❌
(4/4) OT Spencer Fano the #1 OT via PFF ❌
(3/20) RBs took 3 portals, Parker (WSU) good ❌
(3/20) WR rebuild. 3 portal adds. TE a ? early ❌
(3/20) Def replaces a lot, but always v good. ❌
(3/20) Def not many portals. Belief in depth ❌
Injury Notes
Power Ratings Overall: 9.76 #38
Offense: 14.15 #66
Defense: 4.39 #16
SP+ Overall: 9.5 #31
SP+ Offense: 26.7 #70
SP+ Defense: 17.3 #17
Offense: 14.15 #66
Defense: 4.39 #16
SP+ Overall: 9.5 #31
SP+ Offense: 26.7 #70
SP+ Defense: 17.3 #17
Returning Prod '24 QB Isaac Wilson returns
Returning Production: 61% #41
Offense: 72% #14 | Defense: 51% #79
OL Prod: 96% #3, 5 clear starters
OL Snaps: 3751 #30 | From Portal: 0 #98
Rush Prod: 100% #1 | Rec Prod: 47% #71
Def Front Seven: 53% - Secondary: 72%
Returning Production: 61% #41
Offense: 72% #14 | Defense: 51% #79
OL Prod: 96% #3, 5 clear starters
OL Snaps: 3751 #30 | From Portal: 0 #98
Rush Prod: 100% #1 | Rec Prod: 47% #71
Def Front Seven: 53% - Secondary: 72%
Roster Team Talent #68 Blue Chips: 12% #34
Offense Talent #61 Defense Talent #64
Crootin Class #40 - 4 YR Rank #38
Portal Class #42 - 17 players, 86 Avg
26% of Roster from Portal, 25% TY
44 New Players, 52% of '25 Roster #95
Offense Talent #61 Defense Talent #64
Crootin Class #40 - 4 YR Rank #38
Portal Class #42 - 17 players, 86 Avg
26% of Roster from Portal, 25% TY
44 New Players, 52% of '25 Roster #95
2025 Schedule Record Prediction: 7.8 - 4.2 #37
Vegas Win Total Record: 7.5 - 4.5
Schedule Rating: 53 #43
View Schedule & Predicted Results
Opps: Elite: 0, Good: 5, Avg: 5, Bad: 0, Poor: 2
Vegas Win Total Record: 7.5 - 4.5
Schedule Rating: 53 #43
View Schedule & Predicted Results
Opps: Elite: 0, Good: 5, Avg: 5, Bad: 0, Poor: 2
Scoring Scoring: 23.6 - 20.7 (23 - 19) in '24
Scoring at Home: 23 - 17 | Road: 24 - 25
OC: Jason Beck - in his first season
DC: Morgan Scalley - been DC for 3 years
Scoring at Home: 23 - 17 | Road: 24 - 25
OC: Jason Beck - in his first season
DC: Morgan Scalley - been DC for 3 years
Records 2024 Record: 5 - 7 (5 - 7 - 0) (B12: 2 - 7)
2023 Record: 8 - 5 (6 - 6 - 1) (B12: 5 - 4)
2022 Record: 10 - 4 (8 - 6 - 0) (B12: 8 - 2)
4 Yr Record: (23 - 16) | 8 Yr Record: (56 - 30)
2023 Record: 8 - 5 (6 - 6 - 1) (B12: 5 - 4)
2022 Record: 10 - 4 (8 - 6 - 0) (B12: 8 - 2)
4 Yr Record: (23 - 16) | 8 Yr Record: (56 - 30)
'24 OffenseBalanced offense, Pass: 51%, Run: 49%
Awful Offense Success Rate of 37%
Awful Offensive Explosiveness
Awful in Scoring Position 3.4 PPO
Awful Run Success 38%
Awful Pass Success 35%
Bad Offensive Turnovers
Avg OL Grades, Awful OL Yds Per Rush
Awful 1st/2nd Down Success 64%
Awful when off Schedule 24%
Awful Offense Success Rate of 37%
Awful Offensive Explosiveness
Awful in Scoring Position 3.4 PPO
Awful Run Success 38%
Awful Pass Success 35%
Bad Offensive Turnovers
Avg OL Grades, Awful OL Yds Per Rush
Awful 1st/2nd Down Success 64%
Awful when off Schedule 24%
'24 DefenseGood DL Grades, Good Sacks/Turnovers
Great Defense Success Rate of 35%
Great in Scoring Position 3.13 PPO
Great Run Def Success 37%
Great Pass Def Success 34%
Great Pressure/Havoc/Forcing TOs
Avg at Forcing Turnovers
Good Penalty Team, Avg Field Position
Great 1st/2nd Down Success 63%
Great when Opp is off Schedule 25%
Great Defense Success Rate of 35%
Great in Scoring Position 3.13 PPO
Great Run Def Success 37%
Great Pass Def Success 34%
Great Pressure/Havoc/Forcing TOs
Avg at Forcing Turnovers
Good Penalty Team, Avg Field Position
Great 1st/2nd Down Success 63%
Great when Opp is off Schedule 25%
Team NotesQB Dampier forced 54 missed tackles LY
QB Dampier (NM) has full control, big weapon
OL returns all 5 starters, look much improved
New OC Beck (NM) big improvement. Fun Off?
OT Spencer Fano the #1 OT via PFF
RBs took 3 portals, Parker (WSU) good
WR rebuild. 3 portal adds. TE a ? early
Def replaces a lot, but always v good.
Def not many portals. Belief in depth
DC Scalley named HC in waiting. Whit retiring?
QB Dampier (NM) has full control, big weapon
OL returns all 5 starters, look much improved
New OC Beck (NM) big improvement. Fun Off?
OT Spencer Fano the #1 OT via PFF
RBs took 3 portals, Parker (WSU) good
WR rebuild. 3 portal adds. TE a ? early
Def replaces a lot, but always v good.
Def not many portals. Belief in depth
DC Scalley named HC in waiting. Whit retiring?