Marshall at App State - 2025 Matchup Preview
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Saturday, November 22nd 2025 (2:30 PM EST)
Marshall -3.5 (57.5) (-185)  Open: -4.5 | 54.5
App State 26 - Marshall: 24  (Sun Belt)

 
Thundering Herd (5 - 7) (7 - 5 - 0)
Coach Tony Gibson (0 - 0)
Avg Score : 31 - 30 (30 - 36 on Road)
Record Prediction: 5 - 7 (#86)
'25 Opponents: (Elite: 0) (Good: 0) (Avg: 0) (Bad: 2)
MRSH 2nd straight Road Game
MRSH is playing their 4th straight game
Our Line: Marshall -1.5  (SP+ MRSH -7)

Projected Score: MRSH: 30 - APP: 28 (58)
MRSH Win prob: 62% | Cover: 49%
MRSH Travel: 158 miles
Mountaineers (5 - 8) (5 - 8 - 0)
Coach Dowell Loggains (0 - 0)
Avg Score : 24 - 30 (27 - 27 @ Home)
Record Prediction: 5.5 - 7.5 (#83)
'25 Opponents: (Elite: 0) (Good: 0) (Avg: 0) (Bad: 2)
 
Marshall's 2025 Schedule
DateMatchupSpreadTotalResultO/UCover
Sat 8/30 Marshall at Georgia+39.555.5L 7 - 45UY
Sat 9/6 Marshall vs Missouri State-7.053.5L 20 - 21UN
Sat 9/13 Marshall vs Eastern Kentucky-14.549.5W 38 - 7UY
Sat 9/20 Marshall at Middle Tennessee-2.546.5W 42 - 28OY
Sat 9/27 Marshall at Louisiana-2.547.5L 51 - 54ON
BYE WEEK
Sat 10/11 Marshall vs Old Dominion+14.557.5W 48 - 24OY
Sat 10/18 Marshall vs Texas State+3.065.5W 40 - 37OY
BYE WEEK
Thu 10/30 Marshall at Coastal Carolina-7.555.5L 27 - 44ON
Sat 11/8 Marshall vs James Madison+13.553.5L 23 - 35OY
Sat 11/15 Marshall at Georgia State-9.559.5W 30 - 18UY
Sat 11/22 Marshall at App State-3.557.5L 24 - 26UN
Sat 11/29 Marshall vs Georgia Southern-10.561.5L 19 - 24UN

Total: Elite: 1, Good: 1, Avg 0, Bad 2, Poor 7
Played: Elite: 1, Good: 1, Avg 0, Bad 2, Poor 5
Future: Elite: 0, Good: 0, Avg 0, Bad 0, Poor 2
Wins: Elite: 0, Good: 0, Avg: 0, Bad: 2, Poor: 2
Losses: Elite: 1, Good: 1, Avg: 0, Bad: 0, Poor: 3

Predictions for Marshall's Schedule
App State's 2025 Schedule
DateMatchupSpreadTotalResultO/UCover
Fri 8/29 App State vs Charlotte-8.553.5W 34 - 11UY
Sat 9/6 App State vs Lindenwood-31.556.0W 20 - 13UN
Sat 9/13 App State at Southern Miss-3.055.5L 22 - 38ON
BYE WEEK
Sat 9/27 App State at Boise State+16.559.5L 14 - 47ON
Sat 10/4 App State vs Oregon State-1.553.5W 27 - 23UY
Sat 10/11 App State at Georgia State-3.055.5W 41 - 20OY
Sat 10/18 App State vs Coastal Carolina-10.548.5L 37 - 45ON
Sat 10/25 App State at Old Dominion+12.560.5L 21 - 24UY
BYE WEEK
Thu 11/6 App State vs Georgia Southern-4.562.5L 23 - 25UN
Sat 11/15 App State at James Madison+21.053.5L 10 - 58ON
Sat 11/22 App State vs Marshall+3.557.5W 26 - 24UY
Sat 11/29 App State vs Arkansas State-1.054.5L 29 - 30ON
Mon 12/29 App State vs Georgia Southern+10.058.5L 10 - 29UN

Total: Elite: 0, Good: 1, Avg 1, Bad 2, Poor 7
Played: Elite: 0, Good: 1, Avg 1, Bad 2, Poor 5
Future: Elite: 0, Good: 0, Avg 0, Bad 0, Poor 2
Wins: Elite: 0, Good: 0, Avg: 0, Bad: 0, Poor: 3
Losses: Elite: 0, Good: 1, Avg: 1, Bad: 2, Poor: 2

Predictions for App State's Schedule
Important Stats (2024)
 Teams                  Off Explosive.Off SuccessPPGRush SuccessOL Yds Per AttRush YPGPass SuccessPass YPGOff ScoreZoneDef Explosive.Def SuccessDef PPGRunD SuccessPass D SuccessDef ScoreZonePenalty YPGTO PGDef TO PG
MRSH#60 (.21)43% (66)30.845% (47)3.35 (18)20340% (88)1813.93 (66)#47 (.13)40% (46)30.343% (75)37% (21)3.87 (79)42.50.71.5
APP#57 (.21)44% (60)24.245% (58)3.01 (75)15743% (62)2733.89 (71)#123 (.3)49% (127)29.851% (130)47% (119)4.78 (132)5721.2
 Teams                  Off Explosive.Off SuccessPPGRush SuccessOL Yds Per AttRush YPGPass SuccessPass YPGOff ScoreZoneDef Explosive.Def SuccessDef PPGRunD SuccessPass D SuccessDef ScoreZonePenalty YPGTO PGDef TO PG
MRSH0%0%000%000%0%0%0000
APP0%0%000%000%0%0%0000



Overall Stats 2024
 Teams                  GamesPPGPPG H/RSuccess RatePts PerOppTO1stD PGTotalYds PGRushYds PGPassYdsPGRYPARun RatePass RateRun SuccessPass SuccessHavoc RateTotal PPA
MRSH Offense1330.830.242.9%3.930.7203842031815.259%41%45%40%13%.21
APP Defense1129.826.749%4.781.2 - - - - - 56%44%51%47%12%.3
 Teams                  GamesPPGPPG H/RSuccess RatePts PerOppTO1stD PGTotalYds PGRushYds PGPassYdsPGRYPARun RatePass RateRun SuccessPass SuccessHavoc RateTotal PPA
MRSH Defense1330.335.840%3.871.5 - - - - - 53%46%43%37%19%.13
APP Offense1124.22743.6%3.892244301572734.548%51%45%43%16%.21

Additional Stats 2024
 Teams                  GamesPossession Time1st Downs PG3rd Down %4th Down %Penalties PGPenalty Yds PGOff TO PGDef TO PGTFL PGSacks PGD/ST TDsAvg Field Pos
Marshall1328:3919.840%59%5.442.50.71.56.62.6231.1
App State1130:0623.943%59%65721.24.32.1127.6
Run Game Stats (2025)
 Teams                  GamesRun Play RateRun Play SuccessRush Att PGRush Yds PGRush Yds Per AttRushing TDsRun Pred Pts AddedOL Yds Per Att3rd/4th & ShortFront 7 HavocRun Play Explosivness
MRSH Offense1359% (12)45% (47)38.8202.55.221 (59).22 (27)3.35 (18)76% (49)8% (32)1.06 (39)
APP Defense1156% (124)51% (130) - - - - .26 (128)3.41 (125)77% (94)9% (89)1.04 (94)
 Teams                  GamesRun Play RateRun Play SuccessRush Att PGRush Yds PGRush Yds Per AttRushing TDsRun Pred Pts AddedOL Yds Per Att3rd/4th & ShortFront 7 HavocRun Play Explosivness
MRSH Defense1353% (99)43% (75) - - - - .17 (93)2.95 (57)70% (50)12% (30)1.11 (118)
APP Offense1148% (81)45% (58)34.9157.44.513 (105).1 (89)3.01 (75)80% (21)7% (15)0.89 (104)

Pass Game Stats (2025)
 Teams                  GamesPassPlay RatePassPlay SuccessComp PGAtt PGYds PGYds PAYds PCTDs    Ints    PassPlays PPAPassPlays ExplPassDowns RatePassDowns Succ RatePassDowns PPADB HavocPassDowns Expl
MRSH Offense1341% (123)40% (88)14.925.6181.17.112.127 (20)4 (1).23 (82)1.7 (36)30% (36)30% (84).25 (98)5% (52)2 (76)
APP Defense1144% (10)47% (119) - - - - - - 4 (125).37 (119)1.5 (46)26% (133)35% (115).38 (100)2% (134)2 (62)
 Teams                  GamesPassPlay RatePassPlay SuccessComp PGAtt PGYds PGYds PAYds PCTDs    Ints    PassPlays PPAPassPlays ExplPassDowns RatePassDowns Succ RatePassDowns PPADB HavocPassDowns Expl
MRSH Defense1346% (37)37% (21) - - - - - - 13 (31).13 (23)1.6 (58)34% (37)26% (14).24 (40)7% (25)2.2 (102)
APP Offense1151% (53)43% (62)19.835.6272.97.713.823 (41)16 (124).32 (41)1.8 (13)35% (122)37% (15).46 (19)9% (130)2.2 (18)

Marshall's Power Ratings
Marshall's Power Rating: -13.97  #115
Marshall's Offense Rating: 6.50  #113
Marshall's Defense Rating: 20.47  #112
2025 Talent Rating: 608.00  #92
Blue Chip Ratio: 3%  #65
Marshall's 2025 Expected Record: 5.0 - 7.0
Marshall's 2025 Overall SP+ Rating: -4.5  #86
Marshall's Offense SP+ Rating: 29.6  #52
Marshall's Defense SP+ Rating: 34.8  #118

Average Talent
Average Sun Belt Talent Rating is 564.29
Average Power Five Talent: 877.82
Average FBS Talent: 715.76

Power Ratings Matchup
Marshall: -13.97   App State: -10.79

SP+ Ratings Matchup
Marshall: -4.5   App State: -11.4




App State's Power Ratings
App State's Power Rating: -10.79  #120
App State's Offense Rating: 4.88  #119
App State's Defense Rating: 20.06  #109
2025 Talent Rating: 650.00  #84
Blue Chip Ratio: 0  #101
App State's 2025 Expected Record: 5.5 - 7.5
App State's 2025 Overall SP+ Rating: -11.4  #111
App State's Offense SP+ Rating: 23.0  #100
App State's Defense SP+ Rating: 35.2  #122

Average Talent
Average Sun Belt Talent Rating is 564.29
Average Power Five Talent: 877.82
Average FBS Talent: 715.76


Marshall Scoring
Offense: 30.8 PPG
Offense on Road: 30.2
Defense: 30.3 PPG
Defense on Road: 35.8

Marshall's 2025 Record
Record: 5 - 7
Record vs Spread: 7 - 5 - 0
Over/Under Record: 6 - 6
Record on Road: 2 - 4
Record vs Spread on Road: 3 - 3 - 0
Record as Fav vs Spread: 3 - 5 - 0
Record as Road Fav vs Spread: 2 - 3 - 0
Projected Score
Marshall 30
App State 28


Projected Total Points: 58
App State Scoring
Offense: 24.2 PPG
Offense at Home: 27
Defense: 29.8 PPG
Defense at Home: 26.7

App State's 2025 Record
Record: 5 - 8
Record vs Spread: 5 - 8 - 0
Over/Under Record: 6 - 7
Record at home: 3 - 3
Record vs Spread at home: 2 - 4 - 0
Record as Dog vs Spread: 3 - 3 - 0
Record as Home Dog vs Spread: 1 - 0 - 0


YearDateHomeScoreAwayScoreSpreadCoverTotalO/U
202511/22App State26Marshall24Marshall -3.5App State57.5Under
202410/05Marshall52App State37Marshall -3Marshall56.5Over
202311/04App State31Marshall9Appalachian State -3.0App State57.5Under
202211/12Marshall28App State21Appalachian State -2.0Marshall47.5Over
202109/23App State31Marshall30Appalachian State -7Marshall59.0Over
202009/19Marshall17App State7Appalachian State -6Marshall60.5Under
200208/31Marshall50App State17
TeamWinsCoversO/U
App State323 Overs
Marshall443 Unders

WinsCoversFavsDogs
Home Teams7 - 05 - 12 - 13 - 0
Road Teams0 - 71 - 50 - 31 - 2

(#115) MRSH at (#120) APP
Overall StatsOvr
CategoryCatMRSHAPP
Net PPPPPPNRNR
Power RatePwr #115 #120
SP+SP+ #86 #111
Perf GradeGrade #65 #94
OffenseOff #72 #100
DefenseDef #52 #54
Spec TeamsST #103 #77
TalentTal #92 #84
Blue ChipsBC% #65 #101
Marshall Notes
(10/19) Avg 44 PPG in last 5, won last 2 as underdogs
(10/12) Off scorching hot, killed ODU, pass/run 220+
(9/21) Killed M Tenn, QB Del Rio-Wilson good/efficient
(8/30) Turner/Long/Rio-Wilson all played vs UGA
(8/26) QB1 Del Rio-Wilson, J. Long, Z. Turner listed OR
(8/1) Year 0 for Gibson & staff, 62 new players
(8/1) WR added 11 portals! Scattered not great
(8/1) Def complete rebuild. 30 portal adds (of 59!)
(8/1) HC Huff pushed out, opted out of bowl
(8/1) New OC Smith was RichRod's OC @ Jax St
(3/22) 3/4 of roster is new, along with staff
(3/22) QB Rio-Wilson(SU), Turner(JS), Shockey(NC St)
Marshall Injury Report
App State Notes
(10/19) Horrific home loss to C Car, Run Def mauled 240+
(10/19) So QB JJ Kohl taken over for Swann (was injured)
(9/22) App has lost 5 straight road games into Boise St
(8/30) Swann great vs Char, Run game decent, Def imp
(8/1) Poss worst DL in SBC, 7 portal adds are meh
(8/1) Entire new team, portals meh, no bowl TY
(8/1) Def bottomed out LY. DL weak. LB avg, CB OK
(8/1) Don't love Loggains hire, SC was done w/ him
(7/13) WR rebuild, Stroman exp'd, 4 portal adds
(6/3) Watch WR J Barnes (A Peay) 1k yds, slot guy
(6/3) QB JJ Kohl (ISU) had best spring, Swann (LSU)?
(6/3) OL 3/5 back, bad LY. 8 portals, weak in spring
App State Injury Report
Marshall on Offense
Run heavy Offense 57%, Pass: 42%
CategoryCat
MRSH OffAPP Def
PPPOffPPPNRNR
Perf GradePerf #72 #54
SuccessSuc #66 #127
ExplosiveExp #64 #53
PPAPPA #60 #123
PowerPwr #113 #109
SP+SP+ #52 #122
Pts POPPO #66 #132
HavocHav #32 #132
Marshall Run Game
Run heavy Offense 57%, Pass: 42%
CategoryCat
MRSH OffAPP Def
Run GameRun #89 #28
Run SuccessRSuc #47 #130
Run ExplRExp #39 #94
PPAExp #27 #128
Run BlockR Blk #90 -
OL YdsOLY #18 #125
Stuff RateStuff #42 #113
TackleTak -  #48
Marshall Pass Game
Run heavy Offense 57%, Pass: 42%
CategoryCat
MRSH OffAPP Def
Pass GamePass #66 #91
Pass SuccessPSuc #88 #119
Pass ExplPExl #36 #46
PPAExp #82 #119
Pass Rush/BlockP Blk #52 #17
F7 HavocF7 #32 #89
DB HavocDB #52 #134
App State on Offense
Pass heavy Offense 56%, Run: 42%
CategoryCatAPP OffMRSH Def
PPPDefPPPNRNR
Perf GradePerf #100 #52
SuccessSuc #60 #46
ExplosiveExp #28 #86
PPAPPA #57 #47
PowerPwr #119 #112
SP+SP+ #100 #118
Pts POPPO #71 #79
HavocHav #66 #19
App State Run Game
Pass heavy Offense 56%, Run: 42%
CategoryCat
APP OffMRSH Def
Run GameRun #82 #37
Run SuccessRSuc #58 #75
Run ExplRExp #104 #118
PPAExp #89 #93
Run BlockR Blk #83 -
OL YdsOLY #75 #57
Stuff RateStuff #87 #49
TackleTak -  #28
App State Pass Game
Pass heavy Offense 56%, Run: 42%
CategoryCatAPP OffMRSH Def
Pass GamePass #97 #61
Pass SuccessPSuc #62 #21
Pass ExplPExl #13 #58
PPAExp #41 #23
Pass Block/RushP Blk #117 #86
F7 HavocF7 #15 #30
DB HavocDB #130 #25
Program Comparison
APP 5 Year Profile: Declining Average G5
'25 Profile: Down to Below Avg G5

MRSH 5 Year Profile: Declining Top G5
'25 Profile: Down to Average G5

Weather Forecast
Playing in Kidd Brewer Stadium
Conditions:
Temp: 0°
Rematch from Week 13
Marshall 3.5 (57.5)
App State won vs Marshall this year (26-24)

Previous Matchups
App State beat Marshall last year (26-24)
Marshall beat App State in 2024 (52-37)
App State beat Marshall in 2023 (31-9)

  
MRSH's OC Rod Smith (in his first season)
Player NameCOMPATTPCTYDSTDINTYPA
Carlos Del Rio-Wilson (Tr)17125667%20431758.0
Zion Turner (Tr)405968%409116.9
Player NameCARYDSTDYPCLONG
Carlos Del Rio-Wilson (Tr)15965864.124
Antwan Roberts9051245.754
Michael Allen (Tr)7738545.068
Joshon Barbie5624954.428
Player NameRECYDSTDYPCLONG
Demarcus Lacey (Tr)65769511.868
De'Andre Tamarez (Tr)32395212.344
Toby Payne36387310.848
Adrian Norton (Tr)28383513.741

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MRSH's DC Shannon Morrison (in his first season)
Top DefTackTFLSACKSPRESSPD
Boogie Trotter733135
Kerion Martin (Tr)676271
Cameron Smith (Tr)665238
Javae Gilmore (Tr)5610282
SacksTackTFLSACKSPRESSPD
Braydin Ward186542
Paul Hutson III (Tr)376330
Jibreel Al-Amin (Tr)516342
Jamaal Whyce (Tr)295310
Pass DTackTFLSACKSPRESSPD
Cameron Smith (Tr)665238
Boogie Trotter733135
Daytione Smith502004

APP's OC Vacant (in his first season)
Player NameCOMPATTPCTYDSTDINTYPA
AJ Swann (Tr)13022259%14941086.7
J.J. Kohl (Tr)13321662%14651226.8
Player NameCARYDSTDYPCLONG
Rashod Dubinion (Tr)17486845.039
Jaquari Lewis14061864.427
Matthew Wilson1211019.228
J.J. Kohl (Tr)305011.732
Player NameRECYDSTDYPCLONG
Dalton Stroman35665419.072
Jaden Barnes (Tr)55608711.159
Davion Dozier (Tr)20448522.468
Izayah Cummings (Tr)37374110.130

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APP's DC D. J. Smith (in his first season)
Top DefTackTFLSACKSPRESSPD
Colton Phares10110223
DJ Burks732005
Zyeir Gamble724004
Kyle Arnholt561110
SacksTackTFLSACKSPRESSPD
Kevin Abrams-Verwayne437552
Aiden Benton385580
Caleb Sandstrom (Tr)224432
Thomas Davis256320
Pass DTackTFLSACKSPRESSPD
Ethan Johnson4420011
Emory Floyd Jr. (Tr)491005
DJ Burks732005