TCU at Kansas State Week 8 College Football Matchup TCU at Kansas State Matchup - Week 8
Sat, Oct 21 2023 · Week 8 · 🏟 Bill Snyder Family Football Stadium Manhattan, KS · Turf · 50,000 cap
TCU✈ 450 miSame TZ
Away
3 41
Final
📊 Punt & Rally Projection
TCU
25
KSU -5.5
Kansas State
35
P&R Line Kansas State -10.5
P&R Total O/U 60
Confidence 90 High
Vegas Kansas State -5.5 · O/U 60.0
Matchup Prediction
Metrics disagree on this matchup
Momentum Control favors Kansas State, while Game Control favors TCU. Split signals historically show weaker predictive confidence — treat as a toss-up.
⚡ Split Signal — Metrics Disagree
Momentum Control
58.4%
Kansas State wins
Lean
Game Control
58.3%
TCU wins
Lean
Vegas Spread
Kansas State -5.5
O/U 60.0
William Hill (New Jersey)
Advanced Stats
All 4 factors agree → Kansas State · 83.1% ATS historically when all four align
↓ See full breakdown
TCU 2023 Schedule
TCU's 2023 Schedule
DateMatchupSpreadTotalResultO/UCover
Sat 9/2TCU vs Colorado-20.5L42–4559.5L42–45ON
Sat 9/9TCU vs Nicholls-41.5W41–659.5W41–6UN
Sat 9/16TCU at Houston-7.5W36–1364.0W36–13UY
Sat 9/23TCU vs SMU-7.0W34–1763.5W34–17UY
Sat 9/30TCU vs West Virginia-14.0L21–2452.0L21–24UN
Sat 10/7TCU at Iowa State-6.5L14–2752.5L14–27UN
Sat 10/14TCU vs BYU-5.0W44–1152.5W44–11OY
Sat 10/21TCU at Kansas State+5.5L3–4160.0L3–41UN
— Bye Week —
Thu 11/2TCU at Texas Tech+2.5L28–3559.5L28–35ON
Sat 11/11TCU vs Texas+13.0L26–2956.0L26–29UY
Sat 11/18TCU vs Baylor-13.0W42–1762.0W42–17UY
Fri 11/24TCU at Oklahoma+12.5L45–6966.5L45–69ON
Kansas State 2023 Schedule
Kansas State's 2023 Schedule
DateMatchupSpreadTotalResultO/UCover
Sat 9/2Kansas State vs Southeast Missouri State-28.5W45–056.5W45–0UY
Sat 9/9Kansas State vs Troy-15.0W42–1350.0W42–13OY
Sat 9/16Kansas State at Missouri-3.5L27–3048.0L27–30ON
Sat 9/23Kansas State vs UCF-6.0W44–3153.5W44–31OY
— Bye Week —
Fri 10/6Kansas State at Oklahoma State-11.5L21–2953.5L21–29UN
Sat 10/14Kansas State at Texas Tech+1.0W38–2157.0W38–21OY
Sat 10/21Kansas State vs TCU-5.5W41–360.0W41–3UY
Sat 10/28Kansas State vs Houston-17.5W41–061.0W41–0UY
Sat 11/4Kansas State at Texas+4.0L30–3349.5L30–33OY
Sat 11/11Kansas State vs Baylor-20.5W59–2555.5W59–25OY
Sat 11/18Kansas State at Kansas-7.0W31–2760.5W31–27UN
Sat 11/25Kansas State vs Iowa State-9.5L35–4246.0L35–42ON
Thu 12/28Kansas State vs NC State-3.0W28–1948.5W28–19UY
Advanced Stats
Advanced Analytics Matchup
Matchup-adjusted (offense vs opponent defense) · 2023 season
Kansas State PPA Edge
Agreement Signals — When All Metrics Agree
Elite · 83.1% ATS
PPA + PPO + SR + Havoc
All 4 Agree
→ Kansas State
Elite · 82.4% ATS
PPA + PPO + Havoc
3 Agree
→ Kansas State
Elite · 73.9% ATS
PPA + Success Rate
Both Agree
→ Kansas State
Individual Factors — Ranked by Predictive Strength
PPA Overall
Points added per play · Elite predictor
TCU #25
+0.432
Kansas State #34
+0.502
Kansas State Edge
PPA Passing
Pass efficiency edge · Strong predictor
TCU #27
+0.621
Kansas State #60
+0.654
Kansas State Edge
Havoc Total
Def. disruption rate · Strong predictor
TCU #123
0.128
Kansas State #42
0.174
TFLs, sacks, PBUs, forced fumbles — higher is better
Kansas State Edge
Points Per Opp
Drive-finishing edge · Strong predictor
TCU #69
+6.893
Kansas State #1
+9.025
Kansas State Edge
Success Rate
Play consistency edge · Solid predictor
TCU #16
+0.852
Kansas State #18
+0.908
Kansas State Edge
Field Position
Avg start (lower=better) · Solid predictor
TCU #52
70.1
Kansas State #40
69.6
Avg yards from own endzone to average start — lower is better · longer bar = better field position
Kansas State Edge
Advanced stats sourced from CFBD · 2023 season · Edges are matchup-adjusted (offense vs opponent defense)
Power Ratings
Team Power Ratings
Overall · Offense · Defense ratings · Updated as season progresses
TCU Rated Higher
Overall Power Rating
TCU
6.6
Kansas State
6.2
Offense Rating
TCU
17.9
Kansas State
18.2
Defense Rating (lower = better defense)
TCU
11.3
Kansas State
12.0
Power ratings updated throughout the season as results accumulate
Momentum Control (CSS)
Consecutive Scoring Sequences Who builds scoring momentum? Kansas State Edge
Avg sequences created per game
TCU #60
0.67
Kansas State #20
1.40
Avg sequences allowed per game (lower is better)
TCU #104
0.33
Kansas State #46
0.80
Kansas State +0.73
CSS Edge (season-to-date)
Teams with this edge win 58.4% of games historically
Based on 5 games this season
Game Control (GC)
Win Probability Dominance Who controls games start to finish? TCU Edge
Avg GC score per game (offense)
TCU #1
65.3
Kansas State #1
57.1
Avg GC score allowed per game (lower is better)
TCU #70
19.9
Kansas State #20
25.0
TCU +8.2
GC Edge (season-to-date)
Teams with this edge win 58.3% of games historically
Based on 6 games this season
Actual Result
CSS Battle
Kansas State
3 — 0 sequences
✓ Predicted correctly
GC Battle
Kansas State
93.7 — 3.7 GC score
✗ Predicted incorrectly
Game Result
Kansas State won by 38
Spread Context
ATS Historical Context
Based on 2021–2025 backtest · FBS vs FBS · Regular season

CSS and GC disagree on this matchup. When the metrics split, historical cover rates are essentially random — treat this as a coin flip against the spread.

ATS data is informational only. Past cover rates do not guarantee future results.

Coaching Matchup
TCU
Sonny Dykes #1
15–3 (83%) · Yr 2 at school
OC Kendal Briles Yr 1 #1
DC Joe Gillespie Yr 1 #1
Staff Rating
0.00 #1
Kansas State
Chris Klieman #1
32–21 (60%) · Yr 5 at school
OC Collin Klein Yr 2 #1
DC Joe Klanderman Yr 3 #1
Staff Rating
0.00 #1
About these metrics
Advanced Stats shows matchup-adjusted factor edges (offense vs opponent defense). Combination signals — when PPA, PPO, Success Rate, and Havoc all point the same direction — have historically predicted the SU winner in 95–97% of games and the ATS winner in 82–83% of games (2021–2025, FBS vs FBS, regular season).
Impact: Advanced Stats are the best performance based metric used to predict the outcome of games.

Momentum Control (CSS) measures consecutive scoring sequences — when a team scores, holds the opponent scoreless, then scores again. Teams entering a game with a CSS edge of +1.0 or more have won 71–78% of games historically (2021–2025, FBS vs FBS).
Impact: Momentum Control is a great measure for predicting game outcome but NOT an ATS advantage, data shows this is already considered when lines are set.

Game Control (GC) measures win probability dominance — how thoroughly a team controlled the game from start to finish. Teams with a GC edge of +12 or more have won 67–76% of games historically. When both metrics agree, combined confidence is higher. When they split, treat as a lean at best.
Impact: Game Control is another great measure for predicting game outcome but NOT an ATS advantage, data shows this is already considered when lines are set.

Power Ratings are a custom-built composite of a Teams Talent, Experience & Production, Coaching & Performance Metrics. These are updated constantly with roster changes, performance once the games start for the 2026 season, injuries the team is dealing with and scheduling situations.
Impact: There are a wide range of power ratings available, we think ours is the best, you can decide for yourself